Sunday, September 16, 2007

Steve and Kristi with their friend Joe Debenedictis

Hello:
I know that some of you have heard us play on a Sunday morning at the Conversation. Here is a video for those of you who haven't heard us. Here we are at the Mocha Moo Coffeehouse as the featured act for the night with our good friend, Joe Debenedictis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qNCYd_R8Go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzUApuOyZg8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6SoZ-USXTs

We continue to attend the Conversation, and quite enjoy the topics, and the people. It is something that I would have done long ago had it been available. We are looking forward to playing at SoJust. It may be our last performance with Joe, as he fell in love and is going east to Ohio a few days after we play. I hope you'll all be able to be there to hear 2012, Kusikia, Bolero, Patrick, and Steve and Kristi Nebel with Joe Debenedictis. Steve Nebel

PS:
If you'd like to see us in concert sooner than Oct. 13th, we'll be @ The Matrix Coffeehouse, 434 NW Prindle St., Chehalis, WA, Saturday, September 22, @ 8pm - The Matrix has food, a great PA, and a comfortable setting for us all. - Phone (360)740-0492. All ages. $6 admission.
We'll be @ Rhapsody in Bloom & Café Latte Coffeehouse, 3709 6th Ave., Tacoma, WA On Tuesday, September 25th 7:30-9:30pm.

Monday, September 10, 2007

Conversation Recap for September 9, 2007

Today we heard Dorothy’s story. The questions ranged over fascinating topics—the need to pass on stories to younger generations, the difficulties in tracking down the stories we did not hear, the important historical events

Diane Powers joined us today, to talk about hunger. Diane helped to organize the Hunger Walk last year, over 1,500 walkers, and they raised almost a quarter million dollars. This year’s Hunger Walk has a website for you to check, and that allows you to donate. See www.pchungerwalk.org. Diane is the Deputy Director of Associated Ministries. You can see the things they do at www.associatedministries.org.

The latest way to refer to ‘hunger’ in official circles as ‘food insecurity.” Among the difficulties presented to poorer families is the relative cheapness of poor nutrition. And hunger makes everything worse—harder to get to work and work, The US 12.4 million or so children in ‘food insecure’ households, by official count. 43% of families with children with one parent working have a need for food aid. And there are 140,000+ people in Pierce county who seek some kind of food help, and half are under nineteen. A big piece of this is the lack of affordable housing. Some families have to pay three-fourths or more of their income toward housing, leaving little for food.

Summer months are a difficult time to get food aid—people who commonly give to food banks during winter and holidays do so less often in Summer.
The first Sunday in October, the 7th, is this year’s Pierce County Hunger Walk. Half of the money you donate goes to the emergency food network in Pierce County, and half of your donation can be targeted—if you want to send it to Nativity House, for example, you can check that.

One difficulty with distribution is that not everyone knows the location of food banks. Some church basements have food at certain times of day, a food bank location has recently moved, and so on. There is a list of available food banks. Please check them online, at www.fishfoodbanks.org. Perhaps it is a good idea to look up where the ones are around where each of us live.

One member mentioned that his visit to a food bank. He emphasized the importance of giving money, and not just your food up in the cupboards. Fresh produce and other perishables, and a balanced diet require choices among those putting together the cart full of things to take home. Making choices like this possible at a food bank are a big part of building a way to provide the aid with dignity.

One Member reminded the group that SoJust is scheduled for October 19, and the festival will include an opportunity to donate food and coats.

One member focused on the connection between affordable housing and hunger. The price of housing is going up up up, and the dynamics of the construction industry produce housing that can not be afforded by the average household income in the County (about $56,000 right now). Affordable housing is driving the dynamics of hunger for a large number of families in Pierce County. It is difficult to get a grip on the hunger if we don’t also act on the housing side of the equation.

The Pierce County Asset Building Coalition works to encourage families to build assets—helping folks understand how money works, how banking works, how to do taxes (lots of eligible people do not file for the Earned Income Credit, for example). Financial literacy is important here. There is a lot of money that has been unclaimed—for instance, the unclaimed EIC. By one count there was $6.5 million available to families in Pierce County that could come in.

Another member described the storefront loan operations that take large chunks of the money of poor families. Some are payday loan operations. Some are the places that will prepare your taxes and offer to loan the money, for fees and high interest, due them from the IRS. Some banks practice predatory operations, using the information they get on people who are working with the storefront operations.

People find themselves in these situations for complicated reasons. Someone late with the rent has to pay $50 the first day, $75 if it is two days late, and so on. And the fine has to be paid first if one brings the rent in two days late. So the storefront finance companies can look like the best option on a particular day here.

“The whole system is against being poor.” Nice statement from a member. One member expressed frustration at the ‘give a man a fish, you feed him today; teach him to fish, and ou feed him for all his days’ stories. There aren’t the fish out there. We have families who have tough times getting jobs, the economy is full of opportunities to go after the money that comes to poorer families. We have soldiers serving in the war whose families are on public assistance or even homeless.

This is a tough dialog in the USA. The underlying understanding of dessert insists that we examine individual virtue prior to making sense of obligation to our fellow citizens. So if someone has financial difficulty, the tendency in the public discussion is to look for examples of bad choices that, done differently, might have made for better outcomes. And, we hear the leap made from there that the need we see around us is less a demand on our own resources. This dynamic does not encourage constructive dialog. Remember the outlines of the place of the individual in capitalism were written in the 17th century, perhaps best laid out systematically by John Locke. Locke also understood that the “workman digging my turf” mattered little, could not voluntarily move from one parish to another, could not vote, and lacked political rights we now take together. The prevailing ideology was an explanation for why it is OK to not care about those people. But this is the 21st century. It is difficult to find a compelling explanation for why we should not care, today, about poor people.

Dexter introduced the topic of conspiracy theories and the creation of wealth. The creation of wealth has an attendant outcome, and that is the creation of poverty. Recall the story today, that giving out turkeys to homeless people does not make a lot of sense. Dexter suggested that giving out turkeys is about ‘the camera.’ Giving out turkeys on thanksgiving is a good news story about making us one great national family. And then if the story includes the tale of someone selling those donated turkeys, the public response is clear—the real problem is labeled as the pathologies in ‘those people’ and so we have less of an obligation to them. And, the businesses supporting the donations get a free pass on creating wealth, and suggest it is OK since they are not to blame for the underlying pathologies that allegedly afflict the poor. A big piece of this is what is legal. With the example of the ongoing discussions on reforming the air traffic control system. The airline and related companies want others to pay for it—the most recent accusation is that the owners of private jets and planes do not have to pay their share of the system, and that they should. In a big way, the fight is about how the rules determine our mutual obligations,

“If you are part of the system of the creation of wealth, I have learned to say, I have no problem with you.” But, with two other shoes to drop: His challenge to us, is that we ought not to operate on whether our behavior is legal, but we should instead ask if it is just. This group should be part of the discussion about what is just, and he also wants to challenge us when we retreat into our own private spaces, to ask ourselves how we will deal with this. At the Community Partners meeting, for example, we have food left over. How about letting some others in to eat what is left. He is told by the University that it has to be eaten by the group for whom they provide it. It gets right at risk; they have rules about liability.

The framework of laws enfranchises these questionable standards of justice. That which is legal is the bottom line. But we need to figure out these examples, and challenge them. The new bottom line must be, is it just.

On announcements:

Diane told us about the Broadway Coalition for the Performing Arts. On Thursday October 4, she is inviting people to the new Pantages Theater Lobby, 9th & Broadway. The event is from 6:30-8:30 pm, and it will be a chance to look at and give some feedback about the Arts and you, how it can connect to the community.

August 14th, Dr. Antoine Johnson was racially profiled in DuPont. He was driving, was pulled over, was never told why he was stopped. He is going to go to the Dupont City Council, this Tuesday, September the 11th at 7:00, and invites everyone to come to the meeting to support his call for justice. At the DuPont exit, turn West, 318 Barksdale Rd. One member of the Conversation observed she had been pulled over four times, and had never connected it with profiling. The tales of being stopped elicited a murmur through the crowd. They didn’t seem like things just everyone would be pulled over for.

A SoJust organizer passed out a flyer for the event. October Fall Festival, October 13, from 11-3. Right here at Evergreen. People can please do postering in their neighborhood. The event is free, and the group needs another almost $2,000 to put it on. So supporters are encouraged to donate $100. The need is now, so event parameters can be organized. So we need to get up to $2,000 by Monday the 17th.

This coming Tuesday the 12th, the group keeping track of School Board meetings will be meeting at 6. Please consider attending school board meetings.

On Sept. 11 “The Power of Nightmares” will be shown WA State Historical Museum, at 7.
Sept. 25, Steve and Christy will be playing at Rhapsody in Bloom on 6th Avenue, at 7pm.
Christy’s Salon Society is meeting the 14th of October, at the home near here. It will be a discussion of Kurt Vonnegut. A jazz group will perform, suggested donation will be $15. See Christy for details.

Wed. the 12th Evergreen is having an Open House, 4-7, geared at people who might be thinking about restarting, and finishing, their bachelor’s degree. Know someone? Encourage people to bring unofficial copies of transcripts and an income tax return, and they can get a one-stop package of information about what all it takes to get college done.

Christine encouraged Members to look up what is happening with the Education bill now making its way through Congress, and wrote their Senators to tell them what you want to see in an education bill.

Dexter announced the public event at the Thursday the 13th public event at the Race & Pedagogy Planning Summit. It will be at 7-9p.m., Schneebeck Auditorium (the music building). Tickets are free, but call 879-3100 to arrange for them. A good speaker is part of the program, and you will also see a short video with highlights from the Race & Pedagogy Conference from last year.

Monday, September 03, 2007

Conversation Recap for September 2, 2007

We began this sunny morning Locked Out of the Evergreen building. The Lavolds graciously rescued us by opening their home. Lucky for all of us, they have collected chairs over the years. The temperature was a little over 65f, a slight breeze, the sun poked through light low clouds, a perfect morning for a stroll. The assembled party heartily thanked them. Later in the morning several people agreed that getting locked out was a blessing.

The food was moved here with us, ‘Rosalind’s potato collards surprise,’ which people raved about. Your recorder heard the following: “You should try this,” “mmm this is good,” “I love the spices,” “Oh, that is good,” “want me to get some more?”, “our food is always special.”

Julia passed around an article by Dave Grossman, author of Learning to Kill, in the Summer issue of Greater Good. The article described the widespread reluctance of people to kill others, and the ways we purposely desensitize people to make killing happen. You can see an article about Grossman’s topic: Dan Baum, “The Price Of Valor: We train our soldiers to kill for us. Afterward, they’re on their own,” The New Yorker, Issue of 2004-07-12.

The biggest pow-wow in the area is happening now, near Chief Leschi School, near Puyallup off of River Road, down Pioneer way, past the nursery and turn.

We had two new members this morning, and it made sense to have each person say a couple of sentences about themselves. This was an interesting process, it seems like the norms of the two rooms (Evergreen and here) are quite different. People relax more in a home.

Today we heard Amy’s story. Man, oh, man, a standing ovation. Several people said, You Must Publish This.

Some of the discussion was about connecting with students left behind, as the story included an account of a classroom where the difficult students were put together. The kids knew this was a dumping ground. A central idea here, which the assembled group emphasized in discussion, was that we must refuse to call these kids Bad. Getting to know each student is a big piece of it. There is a story about the dedication needed on the part of teachers. Leaders in education need to know this, and remember it. In the discussion or Lincoln high school, we were all encouraged to go on a tour of the renovated building.

Dexter read a piece called “Education,” focusing on what we expect from teachers—in institutions that mark enduring inequalities, where we see “the valuing of trivialities in a land of value.” Teachers, in spite of all the ways we ask them to do a lot without sending along enough resources, are a sign of our hope. This was directed at Amy’s story.

Following her invitation to visit her classroom at Lincoln, we went around the room and made commitments to visit Amy’s class. One thing going on, described by Cherlyn, was a grant she was able to get to fund a mentor program. Really, folks, she means it. You can do something to help or support what she’s doing. There are opportunities to be mentors, to talk to the class(es), to ask the class to tell you about something. Contact information on that Mentor program: call Kurt Miller, Director of Education Initiatives, at 253-272-0771, ext. 18.

One thing that came up was the “Knowledge is Power” schools, or KIP schools. Look them up. It is possible that Tacoma is a good place for such a school.

Dexter started telling us about the American Leadership Forum (more in coming weeks) where he just spent a week. Weird, us being so busy all of the time, but if we step off the world for a week, it actually keeps on spinning. He also described the upcoming Race & Pedagogy planning summit, just a couple of weeks away, and the speakers and participants who will be there. You can help this initiative by supporting R&P: Help fill the auditorium, for the large evening event (Thursday the 13th), and at the end of the next two days the gathering will produce a document that brings together the ideas that came up at the planning sessions. The Thursday evening large gathering is a message to the University on how much the community supports R&P. Information on how to get the tickets will go out to Conversation members in an email, soon. Students are welcome, so if you know some, clue them in.

Friday, Sept. 7, 2-4, is the next R&P community partners meeting. You can come to this—and, the food is always good, consider yourself invited.

Next, Dexter showed us a slide show of the hurricane that just hit Jamaica. The public account of the hurricane, issued by the government and followed by the media, focuses on the damage to Kingston. But the official report that “we were spared” does not pay attention to places like Dexter’s home town, on the coast, Old Harbour Bay. The pictures showed devastation and poverty. The people who have left, such as Dexter, are all over the world, but have organized to do some relief and development work. The town grows poverty, so the need is great. In a town where pretty much everyone is poor, it is the poorest that are hit the hardest. For example, structures that were not made of bricks and blocks were blown and washed away, particularly down on the salt flats. There are a few thousand people with nowhere to go, whose need for space and a way to make a living draw them to this place, and who can not afford solid materials. One large need is to have a well-built electrical power system. The fishing boats of the town were damaged a great deal and the storm pushed boats through houses.

This was the worst storm the people there had ever seen. One told him this made Ivan look like play.

Dexter asked for support for the group he is a part of, The Yard Project. Last time, after an earlier Hurricane (Ivan), his group raised $125,000 to build the houses he showed us in some of the slides. Some sorting out of the process is still going on, so be prepared to receive an email announcing the details of what and how to give. You can send the email to people you know, and magnify the support.

Some of the ensuing discussion touched on the role of government, and the self-help work that goes on in communities. The dominant public philosophy deemphasizes the importance and legitimacy of government. Government does provide many things for some people—ironically, the elites who trumpet the ‘government is the problem’ message are served best—and the poor do not get the same level of support. We discussed several facets of this. Some of them had to do with the intersections public philosophy and the color line in America. The notion that government is this Other thing, that delivers benefits to particular groups, is not particularly helpful (except, perhaps, as a way to contest elections). Every single business in the country gets subsidies of some kind. And there are thousands of governmental units, it is not one thing—nation, states, counties, school districts, and so on. And there are possibilities to do something positive in the here and now. Conversation members know that the recent Superintendent of Tacoma public schools was dismissed, in large part, because of the efforts of citizens including some members of the Conversation. You can do something.

With the opening lockout, and the extraordinary story, and the look at the hurricane damage, today’s Conversation lasted further into the day. It was 12:30 when Dexter started to wrap things up. It is important to support people who are doing things for change, and let others know you are doing something about justice, fairness, and caring for human life.

Reminder: Wednesday, 6pm, at the Philbrooks, the group that meets to work on change in the Tacoma School Board, will be talking again. The upcoming election is an opportunity to get changes moving.

Also, the So’Just Planning Committee will meet Tuesday, 6:30pm at Noah’s house. 414 S. Division Lane. Go here to see the So’Just mssion.

Monday, July 23, 2007

Conversation Recap for July 22, 2007

Today’s topic is delayed a week. Next week, environmental justice.

We began discussing the developing plans for the Fall Festival. The theme is Social Justice, and so far planning has covered the following topics.

• October 13, a Saturday, in the afternoon
• a name still in the works
• a mission statement (important for soliciting money)
• structure: a 3-4 hour event that keeps audience attention, keep it focused.

The plan is to have both music and art, booths, dancing and food. One discussion topic has been whether the program will be sufficiently representative of communities around Tacoma.

• located here at Evergreen (discussions have been started with Dr. Young). this has several advantages, including right size, sound system, location location.
• Money is, of course, a topic. How to organize (go for 501(3)c?), the costs of the site, and fundraising topics have been discussed. We discussed issues that arise over using another organization’s 501(3)c status.

The UPS student group, Students for a Democratic Society, has been working with the planning group, and has offered help and resources.

Conversation members are invited to make contributions to any of the above topics. This is not just about bands and music. The objective is to have an event that pursues the Conversation’s mission. We desire the event to be transformational for people who attend.

We also discussed the possibility of supporting existing scholarships as part of the funding structure of the events.


Dalton told us about the National Exchange Club, which has a national project for the prevention of child abuse. It is a topic that is often difficult to discuss, people have different views on what constitutes child abuse. But in light of recent events in Tacoma, it is clearly is something we can be discussing. See their website at http://www.nationalexchangeclub.com/.

Today we heard Steve Philbrook's story.

In the subsequent discussion we marveled at the twists lives take—the question, Why do people do the work they do and live where they do?, is always interesting. We also talked about the commitment underlying long-term relationships.

We discussed the current selection process for an interim Superintendent of Tacoma Schools, and for a permanent replacement. The Conversation may want to go on record to encourage taking a core mission keeping kids in school. A couple of people mentioned the retention rate for 9th graders at Foss High School (half of them not completing high school). We know who we are losing. There are tensions for the district. If more of the kids we are losing stay in school, WASL scores will drop. The incentives are perverse.

As several Conversation members noted, there is a distinct lack of public outrage about this. It is not apparently a big issue for the school board.

As recent hearings before a Senate subcommittee on education pointed out, the school problems we have hear are national in scope, and are a piece of the picture of inequality in the USA. Communities with few jobs for kids, deteriorating tax bases for cities, and so on, are part of a national crisis seldom noted in our politics and media. We should not be simple about this—the many pieces of the puzzle will include grassroots efforts, parental responsibility, more focused school district policies, and also shifts in national politics. The complexity of the problem is a reason why we should be attentive to the small steps possible to work on what is going on right here. After-school programs are part of it, for example.

Some Conversation members resisted the notion of framing the problem as complex. It might come down to inequality of wealth.

There are policies followed by our school district that produce identifiable outcomes. We can see the consequences of refusing to confront class divisions and racism. One way of taking a small step is to continue asking the school district administration for data about what is actually happening. For example, what about those ninth graders? What are the demographics of the ninth graders who do not graduate from high school? What are the demographics of students in various programs?

The Mimms Academy is working on supporting kids to stay in school, See their website at www.maxinemimmsacademy.org

Tuesday, July 17, 2007

Conversation Recap for July 15, 2007

Cherlyn's Story

Carrie Little from the Emergency Food Network and runs Mother Earth Farm

Moved here from IL because of union husband. No work in IL, came out here for work.

Been a gardener whole life. Kicked out of master gardener program for being “too organic”

Husband was getting involved in labor organizing events. Had learned about an event in Tacoma in 1893 at Fireman’s Park. Gathering of almost everyone in Tacoma to talk about taking care of each other during the then depression. Got involved in trying to recreate that. A homeless man introduced to the gardens and met Bill Bichsel. Need help with garden? YES!

July 17th 1993 the event happened. Husband forced out of union because of that event. Too much attention brought on the union.

Met David Ottie and talked about how it would be great to work together. During 7-8 years after event, worked with Guadalupe Garden and had a farmer’s market here at People’s Park.

In 2000 David Ottie said “woman wants to give this land over to grow food for EFN.” 8 acres, great soil. No earthworms, though. Turned in 6th month notice at Guadalupe Garden.

Gave 70 tons of produce to food banks last year.

Real magic is in taking human beings into a collective. Not master gardeners, but school kids, women from Purdy. Also district court, community service people, mostly men doing 180-250 hours—come out with a bit of an attitude, to be honest. At the end of the day they each get a bag and told “go shopping” Great to see grown men skipping down the aisles. It’s most jazzing to get people connected. Not just preaching to the choir but invite our neighbors to get dirty.

One member asked about how to have a patch of land to grow own food.

CSA (Community Supported Agriculture), you buy a share of what the farmer grows.

Terry’s Berries and Zestful Harvest are 2 examples

Mother Earth may do something with some land bought with salmon restoration money. ME might take over 18 acres. It would be a fund raising effort for ME.

Other piece is to invite share holders into the community of the garden.

Seed saving is an important feature of ME because agri-business is constantly moving to patent the genetic material of seeds so they can “own” the seeds.

Question, how long take and what did you do to revitalize the soil at Mother Earth? Originally planned for 7 years to be in full production, but got there in 3 years. Compost, compost, compost. Neighbor has racehorses give organic feed and get manure.

Cover cropping (primarily legumes). Then plow it all in (with draft horses).

Not organic certified because don’t sell any of it. Gov’t won’t certify unless goods are sold rather than given away. Also Pierce Co. don’t see land as a farm.

How cleanse the earth? 160,000 pounds of compost. Cover cropping then rotated crops 2 acres at a time, cover cropping

Is there more support from political side? Yes, but they constantly need to have their hands held and bringing leaders to the farm.

Someone brought up the idea to take a field trip there.

Are there any adjacent farms that don’t use organic methods and is that a big problem for you? Biggest problem is WSU’s research farm 3 1/2 miles away. Just Google WSU and Monsanto. Very little corn but what is grown is surrounded by sunflowers, for example, and other isolation techniques plus crop rotation.

RoundUp ready crops, Monsanto gets money from gov’t.

What can we do?

Support locallygrown food, as organic as can be, but mainly make a relationship with food and who grows it. Also think seasonally. Should not be eating strawberries and corn in January. Eat greens and beets!

What’s wrong with GMOs anyway? Have actually found a reason to support genetically altered food. In the case of growing in space because that’s where we are going next. Important to do the research but not to set it free in the environment. Setting GMOs free into the environment has been the mistake. If we lose our honey bees, we have 5 years.

How protected is the farm? Is ME part of a trust? Have put in a proposal to have the family do that. Development is encroaching from all sides.

3 statesmen from the Puyallup tribe visited farm this past week. Chief archeologist, biologist and historian doing a cultural map of important. May just pull a “Port Angeles”
What about this new position called a farmbudsman. Good or mouthpiece for powers that be? There could be some value, in terms of building more open markets for growers. There is an upsurge in farmer’s markets.

Also need to preserve the farmland. Faith Dairy is closing tomorrow. Probably all turn into development.

Organic meat? Any teaming going on? Also, could high school kids come out to the farm and spend a few hours a week. Yes, wholeheartedly.

Recommend the Omnivores Dilemma. 120th and Vickery has organic grass fed, fee range meat. There are some other local people-Cheryl the Pig Lady, for example. Hope that next farm will have animals weaved in, involved in digging and fertilizing on site. Terry’s and Zestful Farm, on a limited scale.

Started small, 2 acres 60,000 lbs., now 70 tons (140,000 lbs.)

No sales, but volunteers are rewarded fruitfully!

Tear out your lawn and plant clover or wild flowers, if you don’t want to grow a garden.

Things that grow as “weeds” here are great-fennel, St. John’s Wort, clover, etc.

Sunday, July 08, 2007

Conversation Recap for July 8, 2007

Another perfect day in the Northwest, many Conversation members were in a mood to hug.

We began with an exercise in communication. We divided into those who can see but not speak, and those who could speak but not see, with a task in organization. It showed us that many of our attempts at communication are unintelligible. The normal conventions of conversation obscure the ambiguities. People have different communication skills and techniques, and the exercise demonstrates the importance of our approaches to working with others. Oppositional conversation strategies are quite common in this world of ours. Many of the observations after the exercise looked at the complications of leadership, how it can emerge spontaneously, and subtly. Another theme we discussed was the development of how we work together. We each had to figure out how to play this game, and very different strategies emerged. And, many attempts at communication were not interpreted as intended. Many of us prefer to avoid uncertainty, and we want to understand the expectations in a situation. Classrooms are often structured around clear expectations, objectives, and behavioral requirements for everyone in the room, and exercises like this suggest there are many more things going on in learning. Several people noted the importance of having objectives for learnings, and at the same time creating the space for creativity.

This morning we heard Tina’s Story.

The discussion that followed examined the expectations we have in life, and how the ones commonly offered are sometimes difficult to reconcile with the seeing and doing something about justice issues. We also discussed how growing up we hear racist comments, and develop responses. Some times we make new sense of how those things emerged, a long time ago. Families can do a number on us, so to speak. Recall that phrase, “If you listen to my story, you won’t be able to hate me.” And, the popular culture images of the rural or small-town America, in a golden age, can lay claim to that story only because they ignore the racism, sometimes in subtle forms, and in some places outright systems of terror. We were reminded that many towns were ‘bucolic,’ in the sense of being safe and peaceful, a good place to live, during slavery.

We went over the schedule for the next couple of months. Remember, it along with the bigger documents that we sometimes refer to in notes, as well as some descriptions of earlier events in The Conversation, are found at www.condocs.blogspot.com.

We heard from Rosalind on the food we eat, part 2. We reconvened in the kitchen to discuss food over food.

In the kitchen, Rosalind set up an array of both packaged and basic foods—like, a box of crackers and a collard green. Several people confessed to their own foodisms, such as indulging too much in chocolate or carbs or sugar, or other things.

She shared several books to illustrate ideas about food and living. They included Michio Kushi’s book on cancer prevention, which emphasizes natural foods, vegetarian, and low inflammation foods. Another was about Ayurvedic foods (kitcheri recipe included below). Another advocated getting enough water (probably more than you drink now). Michael Pollan’s Omnivore’s Dilemma.

Someone mentioned a middle eastern shop at 6th & Mildred.

Rosalind emphasized the importance of storing your food, including spices, in glass, not plastic.

We discussed limes, and Rosalind emphasized using as much of the whole lime as possible, including zesting the peel—it is where most of the nutrients are found. Someone suggested the highest use of a lime is in a gin & tonic.

She also described the importance of chewing whole foods that take a while to chew—your chewing begins many important processes that you use to pick up nutrients.

She passed around ginger slices, fresh, which is one of the ‘stars of the show’ when it comes to anti-inflammation. And she had us dip it into sea salt, which besides tasting great sets up more complete digestion of the ginger.

She talked about garlic for a while, and mentioned how you can use it raw, rubbed on sores, and cooked in various ways. It is anti-inflammatory, too.

She showed us a bowl of black beans, cooked. The darker the beans, the more antioxidants they contain. You can use asafoetida with it, if concerned about ‘illness.’ And there is always good old ‘Beano.’

She put together a tortilla piece that contained garlic (lots of cloves), cabbage (covered the garlic in the pan during steaming), a little olive oil, some red pepper, and a piece of sardine. Lightly fry the garlic, then steam it on low heat for maybe 10 or 15 minutes, then add the red pepper. Roll it up and eat. Oh, man, I’m going to do this at home.

Chili peppers have many, many benefits. Red pepper comes from them. Rosalind encourages everyone who doesn’t like it to give them a try. Mmmmm, red pepper.

Flax seed oil! (Your notetaker’s optometrist told him to take flax seed oil each day as prevention for dry eyes.)

Turmeric is used very widely in Indian cooking, and is used as an anti-inflammation agent. The guy who runs the Indian/Sikh store in the B&I, a good place to get a lot of the spices here, will tell you about turmeric. Careful, it makes things yellow.

Lots of folks liked the collards—stir fried up (they steam well) with garlic, cayenne, cumin, turmeric, and a little sea salt.

Several people expressed gratitude at the simple, tasty and healthy ideas.

Onions are cousins to Garlic, close family—and she argues they are very good for you in the same way as garlic. Uses them a lot, like garlic one of those foods that sweeps away various things you might not want in you.

Once the group had eaten, we retired back to the meeting room.

The group went over planning for the MLK event. Last year’s discussions of King’s writings, and how he has been treated in the celebrations, led to the organization of this past January’s event, that focused on the prophetic vision. Many of you remember how it went. The mission statement for that event mentioned this was to be an annual event, and something that complements the other events celebrating MLK in Tacoma.

Dexter read the overall vision statement. Last year planning starting late, about December 6. A group of about 8 people put it together, and perhaps half of that group will return to help this year, along with others who will join it. Dexter has lists of people and businesses that supported the event last year. Support is easier to get if we approach supporters early.

This year (2008) it will be Sunday, January 20. For people interested, we will set up an email list, circulate information, talk about program, place, and all of the details.

The planning group will be open, so that if people show up later and wish to contribute, we will allow that.

Last year the group emphasized that the event keep a distinct South Sound flavor, including local artists who work for social justice, and be very high quality. Also, we want to be able to pay the artists who are often called on to do things like this for social justice.

If we meet in July, we will want to get the fundraising started. We can do bimonthly meetings until November and December, when weekly meetings might be needed.

We discussed venue. Urban Grace, St. Charles, Lincoln, Bellarmine, and Mt. Tahoma were mentioned as possibilities. Volunteers were assigned to check the availability of each place.

The planning group will next meet on July 26, a Thursday, at 5:00, at 3901 N. 37th.


Mung Dal Kitchari (Vata)

• 1 cup basmati rice, white or brown. This makes very good leftovers, and the texture on the leftovers is far better if you use brown rice.
• ½ cup split mung dal. Much of the yellow mung dal contains food coloring, and after experiments I like the regular unhulled split mung dal.
• A tblsp. ghee
• 1 tsp black or brown mustard seeds (black allegedly have more flavor)
• 1 tsp cumin seeds
• 2 pinches hing (asafoetida)
• 1 tsp tumeric, and it is fine to double this, more if you like.
• ½ tsp salt
• 4 cups water, I use vegetable stock. If you soak the dal for 4 or more hours, as maybe you should, cut this to 3 ½ cups water.
• chopped fresh ginger, maybe 2 tablespoons, adjust to taste.
• garlic, chopped, not in original recipe but I like it. Adjust to taste.

Rinse rice and mung dal. If you have time, soak the mung dal in water for 3 or 4 hours, and 24 hours is fine if you like to plan ahead. (If no time for soaking, you can aid digestibility by heating the dal in water to the boiling point, then dousing in cold water, repeat 2 or 3 times. Some folks if sensitive, use Beano.)

Do all measuring, chopping, spice mixes first, then start the heat.
Heat a good-sized pan, on medium. When it is up to temperature, add the ghee, mustard seeds, cumin, and hing. Stir or shake pan for a couple of moments until the mustard seeds start to pop.

Add chopped ginger (and garlic) and stir for a very short time.

Add the rice, mung dal, tumeric, and salt, stir to blend all with spices.

Add the water, bring to a boil. For white rice, let boil for 5 minutes uncovered, then turn to low and cover. Cook 20-25 more minutes, add 10 if in Boulder or higher elevations. For brown rice, leave out the mung dal for 20 minutes while you boil the rice and spices, then add the dal and let cook for 25 more minutes.

For serving, you can use whatever steamed vegetables are seasonal or to your taste. Try:
• beets, sliced and steamed, and beat greens, steamed.
• carrots, sliced and steamed, and chard or collards, chopped and steamed. Sliced steamed yams worked very well, as did bok choy.
• We always serve with chopped fresh ginger, slices of lime. Also good to have chopped cilantro, ghee, and your favorite hot sauces available, maybe some Bragg’s or regular soy sauce. Let each person adjust the mix. I’ve heard coconut is good with it.

Sunday, July 01, 2007

Conversation Recap for July 1, 2007

Dorothy’s story

Conversation revolved around experiences with desegregation efforts in the South.

What’s on the Table? A presentation about food and health by Rosalind

We either feed ourselves or kill ourselves with every bite we put into our bodies.

One of the major health concerns of our time is inflammatory processes-2 kinds:

Good-swelling (injury), white cells increase, body temperature raises, i.e., fever (disease)
Bad-when inflammatory attack comes at wrong time and place

Good Inflammation (Anti)

Bad Inflammation (Pro)
• Autoimmune diseases
• Heart disease
• Cancer
• Diabetes
• Altzheimer’s
• Prostate cancer

Prostaglandins
• Go into system to quell the danger
• Come from foods you eat, namely fatty acids, esp. Omega 3)
o Omega 3s
• Sardines (packed in olive oil)
• Herring
• Salmon (wild)
• Avocadoes

o Omega 6s
• Grains

We eat 25X more omega 6 foods than omega 3s because we eat so many more grains than leaves and grasses-also, our meat is grain fed so we get it there too.

Anti-inflammatory eating. Eat/drink more:

• Tomatoes
• Cayenne
• Turmeric
• Hot peppers/chiles
• Garlic
• Cardamom
• Cumin
• Onion flakes
• Brazil nuts esp. for men
• Ginger
• Nori
• Green tea
• Stevia (doesn’t raise blood glucose level) some recommend agave
• Flax seed and oil (but grind the seeds)

Drink less:

Caffeinated drinks

Alcohol (while healing)

Dr. can give a C-Reactive Protiein test that will indicate the amount of inflammation in body

Homework: Bring something from home that has high fructose corn syrup or -ose at the end of an ingredient name.

HFCS
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Update on Fall Festival:

3-4 hour event
Most likely at Evergreen-Tacoma
Sat. Oct. 13th
Next mtg. on July 16th
Discussing issues like, what will social justice angle look like, i.e., booths, music themes, etc. will we raise money for a purpose, such as scholarships?

The committee will work to make sure 2-way communication and input continues to occur

Happy 39th anniversary to Tom and Marti!

The V-Team met afterwards and tweaked the schedule of programming. View it here.

Conversation Recap for June 24, 2007

We had a wonderful tribute program for Dr. Joye Hardiman that included music, a skit, singing, poetry, storytelling and open mic give-backs. We also were treated to some stories about Dr. Hardiman's life and career as well. A delicious brunch was prepared by our own Rosalind and a good time was had by all.

Monday, June 18, 2007

Conversation Recap for June 17, 2007

Several people commented on the feast-like quality of today’s food offering. Thank you, Rosalind.

Luke announced that Marley’s Wailers are coming to town, June 24th, and fifty seats are open to members of the Conversation. He circulated a sign-up list.

Get Smart Tacoma is reconvening June 27th, at South Park Community Center, in the 4700 block of South Tacoma Way.

Eve distributed information on the group she works with, Courage and Renewal. Read about them at www.wacouragerenewal.org. They put on the series of workshops, on dealing with racism, we have discussed in earlier weeks.

Tom reported on the Tacoma School Board meeting where he presented the letter signed by many members of the Conversation. Many people attended, and stood up to show the Board the degree of public support for this call to focus on student achievement. Tom worked with many groups to generate broad support.

Laurie described the idea for a Fall Festival (thus far nameless, so how about The October Thing for now), discussed by a planning group after last week’s Conversation. The vision is to have an event in early October, a concert coupled with sessions on social justice, some booths where people can connect with different groups, musicians such as Steve & Kristi, 2012, and Peter's group, Kusikia, that has connections to audiences attending college and high school. One objective is to attract a wide range of creative talent and connect to a diverse audience. There is a meeting for further discussions tomorrow. Laurie and Noah are the people to contact for those not able to make the meeting or who otherwise wish to be involved in the planning. Conversation members should feel invited to participate in any way—you can be either on the core planning committee or not, there are many ways to connect, and perhaps you have some ideas to add. Please feel invited.

Today we heard Dalton’s story. The discussions touched on the variety of experiences we have during teen years. We also looked at the sometimes idiosyncratic connections that lead us from the defining moments of younger days to our connections to groups like The Conversation. For example, involvement with an anti-apartheid group proceeded The Conversation, but that suggests the sensibilities supporting involvement were already developed. It is sometimes hard to put our fingers on why we take particular turns. One among many memorable phrases: “being steadfast in what you do, and being ready for whatever comes along….”

Rosalind described something that happened at yesterday’s meeting of the Black Collective, a Curtis High School teacher (Diane Curran), described how she went to the Achievement Gap Summit and to the Race & Pedagogy Conference. She left those with a commitment to go out and do something. And she was honored for making a huge difference in the lives of a group of young men who were there. The group applauded this example of how those events keep resonating in the region.

Kathleen, welcomed today to the Conversation, described her work at the AIDS Foundation—organizing the AIDS walk (in September), running services that help people get health care and other facets of care. She will give a larger talk in a subsequent week.

Dr. Joye Hardiman, executive direction of Evergreen, has been a host to our group, and is changing from her administrative role to a faculty position here. The Conversation has invited her to speak with us next week on the experience of being a public intellectual.

Dexter described a 1976 meeting of the World Hunger Summit, and its goals. A more recent UN meeting set a goal of ending hunger by 2015. All evidence suggests goals are being unmet. About half the people on the planet live on $2 a day or less, and about 30,000 children die every day from a lack of the most basic elements—clean water, adequate food, basic medical care. For those interested, you can check the United Nations’ Millennium Goals program. See it at www.un.org/millenniumgoals.

We discussed some features of policy that contribute to this failure to meet these goals—US policy, and by inference its citizens (like us), have a large part of the responsibility for taking action that undermines the efforts to combat poverty. Some members of the Conversation connected this direction in policy with capitalism, and the persistent and widespread emphasis of free market ideology in our public discourse. One feature of our policies described by several members is the tendency of policymakers to treat governments as evil based on their loyalty to capitalism, rather than considering the impacts on human well-being.

One local example of working with hunger is My Sister’s Pantry, which you can read about at www.mysisterspantry.org. One study of international events that influence global poverty, from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, can be read at www.carnegieendowment.org. One member emphasized the state of the US population. You can see some details of US public health at http://depts.washington.edu/eqhlth/index.htm.

One Conversation member emphasized that personal decisions we all can make, in what we consume, how much petroleum we build into our lives, and what we do in the way of activism, can make a difference. Others gave examples of their own choices in this direction.

Dexter connected the food aid that is part of US policy with the agricultural subsidies—guess which is ten times larger than the other. One of the strongest arguments of leaders of poorer countries is that US agricultural subsidies make it difficult for their farmers to make ends meet.

As Conversation members emphasized, there is a color to world poverty. The color of the overwhelming proportion of those dying children is black or brown. We should not pretend this has nothing to do with the direction of policy.

Sunday, June 10, 2007

Recap for June 10, 2007

We heard Julia’s story this morning. In the discussion we talked about forgiveness, its qualities and origins. It seems connected to suffering, and forgivingness requiring a perspective that encourages comparing one instance of suffering with another. Overcoming big challenges might give opportunities to choose what to focus upon—for example, someone’s laugh rather than an offense from another or a personal hardship. Several people told mentioned experiences with Julia where they learned something about forgiveness. One of many memorable statements this morning: “It is harder to not forgive, than to forgive.”

In today’s moral and philosophical discussion, Dexter asked us about the presence of evil, of pain, of devastating events—the question comes to us, why do these things happen? He read from chapter two and three of Job. One of the stories there is about the two friends who accompanied Job, who sat there with him for a week, in a position of mourning, without saying anything. There is an idea to hold on to—to go to someone who is in difficulty, and be with them. At the end of the story, Job cursed the day he was born in rather strong terms. Look it up for a good lamentation. It was Job saying he could not take this any more.

What followed was a comparison of two stories, one a tale of “woe is me” and the other of hearing about family in Real trouble. Stories like Julia’s help us focus, and get away from “woe is me.”

One member said we distinguish between the apparently random harms that come our way, and evil or harms inflicted as a result of the acts of others.

Another member noted that the resources available to us to deal with the deaths of loved ones, or of people close to our friends, seem to come to us the way parenting skills are acquired—a collection of mistakes we made over time. It is very difficult to lose family members. And we look to people who can give us examples of coping for some ideas of how to deal with it.

Some people shared stories that enabled them to understand Job’s account.

One member noted that this society seems to teach most of us a sense of immortality, and separates us from seeing death as a part of the whole life. Several people said we are better off being able to feel a wide range of things, even though a lot of it hurts.

Several members told stories about family violence, and how it is foundational—the early experiences with what we expect as normal, and what it trains us to feel, presents difficulties later on.

One important source of wisdom in all of this is the people who have some experience. We were encouraged to look to those a bit older than us, to sit with them to listen.

More than one person said this discussion is a reminder of why we keep coming back here. There is a lot of listening to each other, and what strikes many of us as genuine caring for what happens to the people who assemble here. Nice community. And several told stories of being with people while they died.

The discussion of evil and suffering and pain leads to a suggestion from Dexter. There are several books of wisdom, and all of them contain things to listen to about suffering, how to frame it, and ideas about how we get through it. Beware of moving to embrace any one of them fundamentally, just as we should be wary of rejecting any of them fundamentally. No one is free of the challenge of dealing with their own suffering. And what is there for us is those friends who, like Job, come around and sit with us.

Dexter reminded us of the characterization of our culture as a Hotel Culture (we expect messes to magically disappear, we move on from one room to another and expect everything to be taken care of). That is quite a different model than one which has some strong traditions about dealing with death. In Jamaica, for example, there is a set of events around a death—a ‘setup’ before a funeral, and a ‘ninth night’ event—that give support, that connects people to the village, that gives the family some time for feeling the loss, and also that comes back and gives a reconnection with the life of the village. So we are encouraged to connect with friends who can make a difference.

More than one member noted how the industry of counseling is a response to much of what we are discussing.

One member noted how strongly personal is the experience of loss, and coming to grips with the death of someone is part of an individual’s experience—friends and community have limits to what they can offer a person. In some fundamental sense we are on our own.

Our discussions ended with encouragement to keep those connections with people that enable us to sit with folks when they need it, and to come over when we need it.

At the end, Dexter told us a bit about the National Leadership Foundation, and that the Conversation is the only place in town where he sees it happening. Take a look at the NLF at http://www.alfnational.org/.

Recap for June 3, 2007

New members (and returnees) introduced.

Allen-Power of Hope, non-profit youth development group (also member of 2012

Susan Carlton Brown, only been here one other time-back from Boulder, CO. Works at PLU.

Sid’s Story

Dexter’s moral and philosophical question of the day.

Went to the NCORE conference. Has been working on the report of the R&P task force. One of the issues is that UPS has made it a value to remain small. Dexter has pushed the university to think big. One area is to provide something that could be an anchor for the R&P initiative—like an Institute. There must still be community involvement, the question is how much, how wide, under what structure.

Went to NCORE to look at how they run their organization. They focus on the human resources area—diversity in hiring, multicultural office etc. They operate out of the U. of Oklahoma and put on a conference that travels to different universities.

First night there was a cruise 1,700 people. Sat across from a white couple. Man was one of the founders of the program (had no idea). Spoke with him for 3 hours.

One session, Sofia Elijah, Claude Marx, Wayne Thompson, Danny Glover presented on the issue Free the SF 8. 8 black men (former Panthers) well known in the community as activists, were charged Jan. 23 in death of a white police officer 36 years ago. 3 or 4 of them were arrested 36 years ago, taken to NO and tortured. Charges were eventually dropped. In 2003, same officers who tortured them showed up at their doors. “Remember me?” One of the methods was the plastic bag.

Sofia Elijah was on the radio talking about it in Louisiana and the host interrupted and said that the use of the plastic bag has not stopped in LA, in fact recently a man died under such treatment. So the 8 men are in jail but no indictment has even been made. 3 grand juries have thrown out. They are in jail based on a “complaint”. Bail is set at 3 million. One of the men died in Dec.

Question: Given the recent attempts to bring to justice crimes against civil rights activists, is this the retaliation of the white side? If Dexter understands it correctly, the charges are now being brought under the auspices of the Patriot Act.

One reason to bring it up is that some of these folks would be willing to come speak to us about the case.

Legacy of Torture: The War Against the Black Liberation Movement is the title of the documentary. There is a bubbling up of a whole new movement among the youth to reestablish the BPP. This is also against the backdrop of the history of the “old war” against the BLM (COINTELPRO). There are efforts to recruit agent provocateurs and other plants to infiltrate these new organizations. As in the past, if the black men refuse to be plants, they are then targeted.

A member pointed out that there are still over 1,000 political prisoners from the 60’s and 70’s.

Another member agreed that black men are often targeted when trying to organize. He believes it will get to brothers being snatched off the street. A friend and mentor was in jail for robbing a bank, finally let out after 6 months, then re-arrested for rape. Still in jail now.

Another member told of instances where these men are drugged and tortured in these jails.

Another comment on the Patriot Act—it seems that as a population, the American people don’t care or don’t see how it affects us. Maybe it would be good to have a discussion on the Act.

Dexter—really thinks that this group could represent a useful way to bring in discussions of the PA and use it as a way of looking at this issue. We could make some contact with the folks

Another member talked about the tactics used by police at the Port Resistance as well as the reporting on the events. A lot of the tactics that were used were under the auspices of the Patriot Act. An email was circulated around about how human rights were violated that was sent to the City Council on the basis that there was a resolution that the city would not violate civil rights, but now ”can’t comment because of lawsuits”, etc.

Another member said given what the power structure did against mostly white, college kids, don’t even want to know what’s going on in Cell Block D.

R&P was an intelligent exposure of the tender underbelly of racial injustice. Whether it’s the flooding of NO, the incarceration of black men, educational inequities, these issues continue to be a call to us to articulate and expose the injustice. How can we, as a community, ensure that the R&P initiative continue? We should continue the discussion about this next week.

A question that we have to address at some point—as Redeeming the Vision was the first coming out event, the next one will be a (loosely called) fall festival.

Last week the V-Team had a discussion about time. We decided to propose that at 11 we officially end our proceedings. If there is a substantive issue that some want to continue on, or if people just want to socialize, can stay. One of the needs that Dexter has is to have this kind of discussion. Quite comfortable with not knowing what the outcome is of these discussions, but the process itself is important.

Community Partners of R&P will meet June 13th at 4pm.

Adjourned at 11:15

Part 2 with those who wanted to continue the discussion.

R&P was a group of people with energy, intellectual commitment and were in the best sense of talk as action, discussing what they were going to do when they got back to their respective institutions. I.e., Oregon University, came as a group and organized their own caucus to strategize. If we can become an incubator for such activities that would really be enough. Politics is the art of the possible.

Community Partners collectively brought 10 of the 60 panels. One thing insisted upon was local representation rather than national speakers—validate the work that local people and groups are doing.

What about a consortium idea—already have it, really with the Community Partners. Multiple universities and community organizations and groups—spread the cost.

Next idea is to have an R&P Anniversary Summit to brainstorm about what can happen in the future of R&P. Community Partners should take the lead on the visioning.

Texas’10% model:

before: 75% of college students came from 10% of high schools

after: Each HS should have 10%

new 10%ers performed better.

Push back came form suburbanites—there should be no more than 50% combined should come from other schools.

Measure failed.

Tacoma is a great place to come for conferences in the summer.

Tension between 2 visions of Tacoma—a place ripe for becoming a model of radicalism and social justice work or a place for the capitalistic aims of the cultural creative class to thrive.

Another session at NCORE was by people from the National Institute on Diversity being developed at U. of Michigan.

Consortium idea is viable-an example is of how we do academic library consortia—by themselves no academic institution can provide all of the necessary library resources.

An observation from a new member is that in terms of group dynamics, we often fall into student:teacher mode rather than dialogue with each other. It would be great

Announcements:

Tom circulated a Petition to TPS School Board and Superintendent.

A member brought up a news item that reports a danger in toothpaste. Diethylene Glycol (DEG) an ingredient in toothpaste, esp. when made in China. Same ingredient is in anti-freeze. Don't use.

June 16th - Juneteeth in the Park People’s Park 2012, Dawud Mateen, gospel, fraternities, other speakers.

Later that night, Dawud Mateen and a really great local reggae group, Laborer will be at One Heart Cafe

Traditional Caballeros celebration as well.

Recap for May 27, 2007

We had guests today.

Rose Ehart UP City Council Candidate
Lauren Walker Tacoma City Council Candidate
Marilyn Strickland Tacoma City Council Candidate
Laura James Tacoma School Board Candidate

We heard Noah’s Story and something that was apparent to all is that one of the most important things in his life are relationships.

Tom introduced candidates by saying they are running for positions that will have to make decisions about fair housing and other issues relevant to this group and the city as a whole, especially the affordable housing moratorium.

Rose Ehart:

Background in real estate. Property management etc. Passion for people in need. Raised with as a value. Many times as a property manager, someone’s rental check would come back that they didn’t pay Sears bill, but they did pay the rent. (Sometimes you need to get mercy), would look at the things that matter. Lots of prejudices about people and whether they should live in certain “really nice” properties. Work with people on fair housing comes back to you positively. Do not want our city to be pricing people out. Will be pushing housing affordability not affordable housing.

Marilyn Strickland:

Mom and dad bought a $15,000 house, but it took her until 40 years old to buy first home. Understands affordability issue. Live downtown and see maybe 5 people pf color in bldg. Construction projects going up, need for jobs and apprenticeships, especially people of color.

Lauren Walker:

Runs a non-profit housing discrimination organization. Want to get rid of as first thing: the “no low income housing in downtown” approach. Lived in Hilltop for last 17 years. Only place that could afford. Had lived in Boston in richly diverse community. Became president of HAC. Focused on home ownership to build more stability in neighborhood. She thinks it had more of an impact than block watches. However, now what we have is gentrification. Instead of just letting market forces determine what kinds of development on Hilltop, especially MLK, we should be using zoning laws to ensure that mixed use development happens.

Laura James:

She has not yet made a public announcement about candidacy but intends to seek eection to the Tacoma School Board. Has been a substitute teacher and worked with administration. Is a citizen of the US and has lived here for over 30 years, and in Tacoma for 25.

Volunteer at Al Davies, 1st VP of Assoc. of Colored Women’s Clubs—looking for a new bldg. (hopefully prices will not go up too much), on board of Maxine Mimms Academies. Concerned about drop outs. Has also worked with JRA (met Noah there and brought him on board with their activities).

Priorities were to get educated in preparation for running for this office. Undergrad degree in Phys Ed. and master’s degrees in Org Systems Renewal and in Ed. Leadership. Need to design programs for kids who have trouble to ensure they have a place to be while we help them get straight.

Discussion:

One member talked about being a LatchKey kid and how hugely helpful that was to her mother. Also, transition from elementary to middle school is very difficult.

Question: what would candidates do to ensure that Hilltop remains mixed, culturally and economically.

Marilyn: As an example-Brown’s Star Grill (a community landmark recently shut down by the city)--what if we had a development in that old building and had a library housed as ground floor tenant as anchor that draws people.

Another member talked about Weed and Seed, Empowerment Zones etc. and how they are “pimped” all over the country. What if neighborhood people could apply for funding to grow a project in the neighborhood.

Lauren: re market forces—simple things, such as requiring the use of people of color in advertising—one thing Fair Housing is doing is as part of a grant to analyze who people have sold homes to and then look for gaps. Have housing providers and developers think together about building community rather than just buildings.

Marilyn: You want developers here, but have to balance respect for fact that they want to make money.

Rose:

Get public involved and learn what needs are, incentives to builders, we're going to give tax breaks, but with strings. It’s more than building a project, it’s community building. You’re going to have to pull in people from different income ranges, hire diverse people so they have the income to buy. Not just $ that have to pencil out. Need to have an active council that brings the people in so they are not ignored.

Tom-Housing Affordability Part 2

Through regulation we design communities. If we were going to make room for homeless, for affordability we have to pay attention. Created a task force 2006. Commend the workbook on Housing Affordability that the task force produced to the candidates in the room.
Charged with addressing housing needs for all economic sectors with focus on low income.

Tom gave the Executive Summary of the report.

The full text of the report is available at our new companion site Conversation Documents.

37,000 unit housing shortfall is a high pitch to hit. Have to convince 22 cities and towns that they need to share the burden. This is the issue that will be before the regional council.

Fair share in 2022 would mean that in unincorporated area we would need 5,000+ housing units.

Tacoma 8,000+, etc.

Affordable Housing was a market concept—looked at housing available in market and looked at what was most affordable.

Housing affordability looks at it from a renter/seller standpoint—should not be more than 30% of income.

Marilyn: Has Tacoma City council seen and approved? Tom—they need to but don’t think they have. These need to get to the cities and towns, but approach has been to get buy in from regional council first.

Lauren: commends Tom and the task force (very diverse). Question of how affordability is bad is a perception in the public. Did task force deal with that? Tom—yes, in the report you’ll see examples of attempts to educate folks.

One member-advertising that shows diversity doesn’t just tell people of color that they’re welcome, but also is important for people used to white privilege that they need to get used to mixed neighborhoods.

One member who lived in historic McIlveigh bldg. never could afford a home. Got hit by a bus and got a home. Need to deconstruct the term affordable housing. Land in downtown is owned and there is no room for housing.

Laura:

Listening to the conversation about housing really opens her eyes. It seems we have to look at our language about affordable housing.

Lauren: Even fair share is a difficult concept to get people to accept, it being used to describe housing/programs.

One member talked about the issue of “public perception” and which “public” it is that we are talking about. It is a certain segment—white middle and upper class folks and they are the ones with the most political and economic clout and they get what they want.

Another talked about the race and class dynamics as well as the language that sometimes reinforces the perceptions out there, even words like “burden”.

Moral & Philosophical Question:

Dexter began by reminding us that US society is anchored by its Judeo-Christian heritage and its concepts of justice and fairness.

He read to us from Micah Ch. 2 "Woe to those who devise iniquity...

and work evil on their beds!"


And Psalms 113 "Who is like unto the Lord—he raises the poor from the dust…"

National Alliance to End Homelessness notes that homelessness is a recent phenomenon which really started in the 60’s and exploded in the 80s in the move to deinstitutionalize the mentally ill.

A Canadian journalist won an award for a report on homelessness in LA—10,000 live in a tent city.

In 1964, MLK noted that The US has the resources to end poverty. Bookbinder said that adequate resources were available (3 trillion would be needed), but was not dismayed as he acknowledged that it could be done.

MLK Jr. was quite harsh on tokenism. "He who sells you the token instead of the coin always retains the power to revoke it’s worth.”

Look at people in political office in this city. Love to promote that we are the most diverse population in state—but look at city council. A few black faces in high places, a few brown still around, but black and brown agenda is still on the ground. Obama can be applauded, but he is only one of 100 senators.

1,185 Americans have served in senate, only 5 have been black 2 were appointed to finish seats left vacant.

92 years before Edward Brook elected in 1967

36 years after that until Carol Mosely Braun.

35 women, right now 16 among the 100.

You running have a double responsibility—have to work hard to create coattails so others can come on board also.

Close front door open the back door and make sure that homeless move quickly to get into homes.

Why do we have homelessness? Housing stock has declined and real income has declined.

One member talked about Harry Shearer’s interview with Al Gore and regard to Iraq war it’s American people’s complacency that perpetuates the war and other injustices.

A response was, ask not for whom the bell tolls, addressed specifically to the author of The Assault on Reason.

One member suggested that there are some buildings that could be refurbished to house homeless.

Lauren:

People of color and women have both diminished. How do we get the youth of today to be interested in politics?

Dexter: It should come as no surprise to us that the top 1% of households owned 50% of corporate wealth in US. Elected officials are squarely in this category. After 10 years of declines of real earnings, the paltry min. wage is increased only as part of war spending bill.

Marilyn:

Even at the local level you have to have money to win.

Announcements:

Dear Superintendent Milligan letter is available. A member brought copies. Impetus was a meeting in community to draw attention to the issue of morale, superintendent’s lack of responsiveness etc.

One member had an opportunity to meet with TPS union about nexus of interests between them and citizens and how to send a message on June 14th. If changes resonate with you, consider signing petition.

2 members quoted in TNT about Milligan

A member offered the idea that young people love doing jobs, so if you have access to a work party and offer hot dogs, get kids in on the process of the work party.

Rose: If no plans for this Fri night campaign kick off. Party with some regular people As well as some elected officials. 5:30-7:30 UP Town Hall

Saturday, May 26, 2007

Recap May 20, 2007

We have guests today—Walidah Imarisha, who made the film, and Suncere Ali Shakur, an organizer of the Common Ground Collective in New Orleans. They showed a documentary about Hurricane Katrina and aftermath—parts of the story not reported in the mainstream news. Discussion followed. The footage for the film was shot about 3 weeks after Katrina.

See the Common Ground Collective at www.commongroundrelief.org. Michael Moore gave them a small boat and their first $25,000 to keep them going. See the left side of their web page, for the link “How You Can Help.”

The Video is entitled Finding Common Ground in New Orleans. We see scenes of the organization, their operation, and some of the barriers they faced. Government didn’t offer any resources. The City was not organized at all. White vigilantes were allowed to roam around armed in their pickup trucks. Another group, Soul Patrol, got 1,000 people to higher ground during the flood. The water rose quickly, from nothing to six feet deep in half an hour.

Through the mainstream media we saw tales of demonizing lawless young men. There was a story of 120 buses sitting still as the flood started. But, the people in the video saw the young men getting the buses to get people out, a story of the rescue effort organized on the spot.

“Angola South” is an Amtrak station being used by the city as a prison. Most people incarcerated, an official said, were there for curfew violations. One guy who just went down there to work was picked up for curfew violation, and en masse detainees were offered to exchange a guilty plea for getting out instantly with forty hours of community service.

Several scenes showed the extent of damage, the neighborhoods where the Common Ground folks were the first on the scene—after a month—and the pattern was stark. A Native American neighborhood, and the poor black sections of town, were hit hard and relief was slow. Giant trees ripped up, a cemetery where vaults were shifted and caskets floated away, neighborhoods without floodgates, black mold growing up to the high water mark.

Walidah and Suncere fielded questions and helped with the discussion. Both have been active in organizing, organizing for feeding people, helping prisoners and their families. They reported talking with people who had stories of the levies being destroyed on purpose, to relieve the pressure on the Garden District and other richer areas. The widely believed stories are reminiscent of historical accounts of government admitting having blown up levies in 1927. In 1965 and during Katrina the stories of this happening again emerged, and they are widely believed in New Orleans. Walidah put it in the context of astonishing neglect, racism and classism that people have known about for a long time.

The way the conversations about New Orleans are usually framed is as a natural disaster, one of those things that is just too big to deal with. Nonsense—this was a man-made disaster that was allowed to happen, poor work and long-time neglect on the part of those responsible for the infrastructure in the city, for organizing the emergency response, and so on. So it does not get framed as a case of criminal neglect. (Readers might remember that the GAO and others have issued reports on the state of the levies, for years Congress was aware of the problems.)

Different police officers told Walidah different stories about when curfew was—remember most of those people were in jail for curfew violations. Some were in there for speeding tickets. So the misdemeanors that normally get a ticket were being used to clear the streets, to clean up the jail and other government facilities (instead of hiring and paying a living wage to people do this work). One defense attorney, one prosecutor, one judge…. One of our members called it slave labor.

Some Conversation members recalled a strong sense, at the time, that there were some people who were wanted in the town, and some people that were not wanted in the town. This was not something public debate at the time could confront directly. Still isn’t.

One thing that emerged strongly for Suncere was that race and class were at the center of this. The reports just after Katrina of gold and Louisiana real estate investments soaring, of contracts that made lots of money for some folks, formed a stark picture of some people paying big costs of this, and some people making gobs of money.

Walidah gave this as another example of the way the issue is framed in the media. Casting this as a natural disaster, as God’s will, as something no one can do anything about, is a way of denying any of this is going on. What were the themes that got into the media—the tales of rapes at the Superdome, the black men as animals stories, the shooting on the bridge, the depiction of people as doing nothing besides waiting for someone to come help them…. One of the reasons for doing this film was to also show the story of the people who were organizing and taking care of business. Did anyone see a story of people in the dome breaking into stores and bringing food back so the old folks and the babies could make it?

A question about those vigilantes in the pickup trucks. Suncere told us what he saw. These guys were driving around the neighborhood, and the police were called but did nothing about it. Some blocks were barricaded by fallen trees. Whites with guns were accepted. Black men with guns was not similarly accepted. The guys in the trucks had lots of ammunition, streetsweeper style shotguns. He saw people who were shot. A race war almost broke out, and the vigilantes were blocking people in the Algiers neighborhood from getting out to the relief sites. When one older woman was confronted by the armed white men, some guys Suncere knew about broke into a pawn shop and got some guns. And the next day the National Guard showed up. Each Suncere and Walidah saw examples of white guys with guns being welcomed into the city by the police.

We talked about disaster planning, in Tacoma and in general. Essentially, we start with the idea that you are on your own if something bad happens. The wisdom of building a city below sea level is one part of it; but there was a city there, the people at the lowest elevations are generally poor people of color. The discussions of policy, and sustainability, take place in a context.

One member of the Conversation, who was in New Orleans training folks in cleanup techniques, saw the Common Ground work, the building they organized from. He was there for as much as 18 months, and toward the end he felt he had to get out of the city in part because it was becoming too dangerous for African American males, people getting snatched on the street, tossed in jail, threatened with guns.

Some additional media sources on the topic: Food Water Revolution is a short documentary that ties the Katrina situation with the war in Iraq. Big Easy to Big Empty; the Greg Palast interview on the topic with Amy Goodman; Spike Lee’s documentary on New Orleans; Tracey James Slave Revolt Radio pieces on the New Orleans situation.

Many of us have seen news stories over the last year and a half, and it is difficult to sort out what really happened. There have been, for a long time, stories on the issues about water levels and storm surges and wetlands and government budgets that do not cover the needs.

If people are interested in a report on the Blackwater mercenaries in New Orleans, by the person who recently published a good book on the subject, see www.truthout.org/docs_2005/091005A.shtml.

There was a story of one parish in New Orleans that was being closed by Archbishop Hughes (yes, that Archbishop Hughes, from Boston). A demonstration at the church was reported as an armed takeover by black panther types, instead of a community-based protest to the Archdiocese. The local folks got the church to stay open, by the way.

Some recent reports on post traumatic stress disorder in New Orleans, and on the way residents and others who have been there have been affected, have recently been published. Some of the stories today showed that the people there doing the work paid a price. It is hard work that needs support. Information on contact points to support the efforts are on the website of Common Ground, at www.commongroundrelief.org. See the link on the web page, on the left, “How You Can Help.”

Dexter helped summarize the session today, with three ideas.

The fatigue of a disaster area, the physical and emotional effects on the people, is difficult to conceive of for people who have not been there. Once you go into a disaster zone, everything changes. Life becomes about survival, and people get through on adrenaline. People need to be rotated out of disaster areas. Many of the people we have talked about live in the zone, and do not get to rotate out of it.

A founder of Common Ground showed in the film that the organizing skills, the know-how to get things going, is valuable work that is unrecognized by the overall system. No government support, active resistance, the works. The fortitude to do that work is there. And the knowledgeable people who build those skills, and train others to do it, are doing very valuable work.

As today’s discussion showed, a central piece of change is that information has to get out there. And the mainstream media are not going to get it to you. The people like Walidah and Suncere who take it on the road, who share these stories, are an essential part of this change. So we need to find ways to make use of the media to keep people alive and have a future.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=727019597

Note: May 22, 7:00 pm. Martha Nussbaum is speaking here, at Evergreen.

Recap for May 13, 2007

Charhys’ Story: Lesson- encourage people in the things they are best at and give them space and time and choices on how to achieve dreams.

Tom- Housing Affordability

Tom began by telling us that growth management imposes on local jurisdictions how densely developed a community will be. Pierce Co. is in the process of updating its growth plan. In Tom’s opinion, there is a need to press the issue of affordability in this plan rather than making it an afterthought.

Have to design into the community a life for people who cannot afford to live in the economy. Level of pricing considered affordable is 200K for a house. A 25 member task force of building, planning, activists, non-profits, government to work under growth management and land use regulations was given 6 months (but took 18) and operated under consensus to develop recommendations, not implementation. The task force was charged with addressing the housing needs of all, but with particular attention to low income residents. Considerable time was spent on the depth and complexity of problem.

They reviewed income and housing data, affordable housing strategies in other areas, etc. and developed a broad set of recommendations to increase affordable housing. They got endorsements from the PC Exec and Council. Next is to get the cities and towns to agree to share the burden.

What learned:

64% of households are occupied by homeowners
34% by renters

Housing is affordable if no more than 30% of income is spent (on either rent or mortgage)

Housing wage that is necessary to rent a 2 bed apt. was $14.88/hour

The median hourly wage for renters was $10.67

The minimum wage was $7.63 per hour

37% of renters and 27.5% of owners were paying more than 30% of their income for housing.

31% are cost burdened.

The median price of a home in PC is $273,000-- an increase of 12.8% over prior year

Pierce Co, has highest concentration of mobile homes (40% of state)

Question—will strategies create concentrations of low income housing—projects?

We need to be asking developers to make their projects 30% affordable

Need the 22 cities and towns to share responsibility for adding affordable housing.

Peter’s band Kusikia is touring. Check out their site at www.myspace.com/kusikia.

Christopher (Marla’s son) has a band, rock, soul, R&B

Rosalind will have a play in the Double Shot Theater Festival at UPS this week.

Chrestina asked by UWT to sit on a committee re disability and campus expansion

Steve and Kristy are doing a house concert next Sat. at Colleen’s house

Martha Nussbaum at Tacoma Campus on Tuesday as part of the Cal Anderson Memorial Lecture Series

Soulfest 7-9pm May 18th Bldg 11. Music, poetry and dance at TCC

Community Fair at Tacoma Campus May 19th

Friday, May 11, 2007

Mother's Day

Thank you, Dexter, for this important (re)discovery of the history of "Mothers' Day"

Mothers' Day Proclamation: Julia Ward Howe, Boston, 1870

Mother's Day was originally started after the Civil War, as a protest to the carnage of that war, by women who had lost their sons. Here is the original Mother's Day Proclamation from 1870, followed by a bit of history (or should I say "herstory"):
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Arise, then, women of this day! Arise all women who have hearts, whether our baptism be that of water or of fears!

Say firmly: "We will not have great questions decided by irrelevant agencies. Our husbands shall not come to us, reeking with carnage, for caresses and applause. Our sons shall not be taken from us to unlearn all that we have been able to teach them of charity, mercy and patience.

We women of one country will be too tender of those of another country to allow our sons to be trained to injure theirs. From the bosom of the devastated earth a voice goes up with our own. It says "Disarm, Disarm! The sword of murder is not the balance of justice."

Blood does not wipe our dishonor nor violence indicate possession. As men have often forsaken the plow and the anvil at the summons of war, let women now leave all that may be left of home for a great and earnest day of counsel. Let them meet first, as women, to bewail and commemorate the dead.

Let them then solemnly take counsel with each other as to the means whereby the great human family can live in peace, each bearing after their own time the sacred impress, not of Caesar, but of God.

In the name of womanhood and of humanity, I earnestly ask that a general congress of women without limit of nationality may be appointed and held at some place deemed most convenient and at the earliest period consistent with its objects, to promote the alliance of the different nationalities, the amicable settlementof international questions, the great and general interests of peace.

Julia Ward Howe
Boston 1870
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Mother's Day for Peace - by Ruth Rosen.

Honor Mother with Rallies in the Streets. The holiday began in activism; it needs rescuing from commercialism and platitudes.

Every year, people snipe at the shallow commercialism of Mother's Day. But to ignore your mother on this holy holiday is unthinkable. And if you are a mother, you'll be devastated if your ingrates fail to honor you at least one day of the year.

Mother's Day wasn't always like this. The women who conceived Mother's Day would be bewildered by the ubiquitous ads that hound us to find that "perfect gift for Mom." They would expect women to be marching in the streets, not eating with their families in restaurants. This is because Mother's Day beganas a holiday that commemorated women's public activism, not as a celebration of a mother's devotion to her family.

The story begins in 1858 when a community activist named Anna Reeves Jarvis organized Mothers' Works Days in West Virginia. Her immediate goal was to improve sanitation in Appalachian communities. During the Civil War, Jarvis pried women from their families to care for the wounded on both sides.

Afterward she convened meetings to persuade men to lay aside their hostilities.

In 1872, Julia Ward Howe, author of the "Battle Hymn of the Republic", proposed an annual Mother's Day for Peace. Committed to abolishing war, Howe wrote: "Our husbands shall not come to us reeking with carnage... Our sons shall not be taken from us to unlearn all that we have been able to teach them of charity, mercy and patience. We women of one country will be too tender of those of another country to allow our sons to be trained to injure theirs".

For the next 30 years, Americans celebrated Mothers' Day for Peace on June 2.Many middle-class women in the 19th century believed that they bore a special responsibility as actual or potential mothers to care for the casualties of society and to turn America into a more civilized nation. They played a leading role in the abolitionist movement to end slavery. In the following decades, they launched successful campaigns against lynching and consumer fraud and battled for improved working conditions for women and protection for children, public health services and social welfare assistance to the poor. To the activists, the connection between motherhood and the fight for social and economic justice seemed self-evident.

In 1913, Congress declared the second Sunday in May to be Mother's Day. By then, the growing consumer culture had successfully redefined women as consumers for their families. Politicians and businessmen eagerly embraced the idea of celebrating the private sacrifices made by individual mothers. As the Florists' Review, the industry's trade journal, bluntly put it, "This was a holiday that could be exploited."

The new advertising industry quickly taught Americans how to honor their mothers - by buying flowers. Outraged by florists who were selling carnations for the exorbitant price of $1 a piece, Anna Jarvis' daughter undertook a campaign against those who "would undermine Mother's Day with their greed." But she fought a losing battle. Within a few years, the Florists' Review triumphantly announced that it was "Miss Jarvis who was completely squelched."

Since then, Mother's Day has ballooned into a billion-dollar industry.Americans may revere the idea of motherhood and love their own mothers, but not all mothers. Poor, unemployed mothers may enjoy flowers, but they also need child care, job training, health care, a higher minimum wage and paid parental leave. Working mothers may enjoy breakfast in bed, but they alsoneed the kind of governmental assistance provided by every other industrialized society.

With a little imagination, we could restore Mother's Day as a holiday that celebrates women's political engagement in society. During the 1980's, some peace groups gathered at nuclear test sites on Mother's Day to protest the arms race. Today, our greatest threat is not from missiles but from our indifference toward human welfare and the health of our planet. Imagine, if you can, an annual Million Mother March in the nation's capital. Imagine a Mother's Day filled with voices demanding social and economic justice and a sustainable future, rather than speeches studded with syrupy platitudes.

Some will think it insulting to alter our current way of celebrating Mother's Day. But public activism does not preclude private expressions of love and gratitude. (Nor does it prevent people from expressing their appreciation all year round.)

Nineteenth century women dared to dream of a day that honored women's civil activism. We can do no less. We should honor their vision with civic activism.

Ruth Rosen is a professor of history at UC Davis.Reprinted with permission

http://www.peace.ca/mothersdayproclamation.htm

Monday, May 07, 2007

A Member's Impressions of Get Smart Tacoma

Report on Get Smart Tacoma, Stadium HS, May 5, 2007

Dear Conversation members,

I attended the Get Smart Tacoma meetings from noon on, after going to another thing in the morning. Others from our group attended, and may have things to report, as well.

Lots of good people there, and some very good ideas emerged. The draft report on the vision and near-term goals should be out by early June, perhaps earlier on the web page, and we will have a chance to comment upon it. I will bring concerns to the group, as I am sure others will.

Some odd things happened there.

One group reported its list of issues and items to addressed during the post-lunch general session. Racism was, inadvertently, left off the list presented to the whole group. At the end of the presentations, during the Q&A, a member of the Conversation asked that it be put back on the list, and moreover have the group clarify what they meant by ‘racism.’ They said they had discussed the notion of white privilege.

A second odd thing happened during the final group presentations, later in the afternoon. Our group discussed, among other things, ways to have each middle school student paired with a mentor within three years. Our one year goal was to have 25% of the students paired with mentors, targeting first the most at-risk students. Well, the way it got reported to the whole group was that we wanted 25% of the at-risk students to be paired with mentors within a year. A member of the Conversation added, from the audience, that the way it was written on the page was accurate—that 25% of ALL students should be paired with mentors within one year, and that the most at-risk students are to be targeted first. This means the at-risk rate of pairing with mentors would be somewhere between 50-100%, depending on how one defines at-risk.

A third odd thing happened during the final group presentations, later in the afternoon. Our group discussed both grassroots and top down organizing of Tacoma to support education. One suggestion for the top down approach was to have the Superintendent and the Board to get together with the print and broadcast media of the region a few times per year, and challenge them to cover the tough problems facing the public schools, and to education the public on the need to have widespread participation in the ways we try to address them. Tell them it is their responsibility to do this. But, the way it was presented to the whole conference was that the media should be encouraged to report the positive things that go on in the public schools. A member of the Conversation wrote a detailed note to the conference organizer, explaining what was actually discussed in the group.

The last odd thing that happened was a surprise speaker, inserted at the end. The number of attendees had dwindled from about 135 to about 65, which included the consultants, the principals and school board and other officials that were there, the grand nephew of one of the speakers, the works. So perhaps 40 community people were still there. The speaker presented a Powerpoint lecture on the College Success Foundation, which does good work, and which announced a new program for the period after their current grant runs out. While informative and certainly related to the topics of Get Smart Tacoma, this was hardly a focus on getting community participation.